In looking at the candidates for sheriff, there’s a distinct and clear message James Ledbetter and Johnny Brown is giving: (a) we need more revenue; (b) we don’t need a traffic division.
Does the Ellis County Sheriff’s Department really need a traffic division, as Ledbetter’s campaign suggests? Isn’t that more of a liberal position than a conservative plank?
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82 Comments
March 16, 2008 at 6:50 am
The Sheriff’s Department does not need a “Traffic Division”. There are a lot of things they need but not that. The State Troopers do a great job of traffic enforcement. I think they should train ALL patrol deputies to make traffic stops instead of having one division of deputies that do nothing but traffic stops and tickets. Besides from what I understand approximately 40% of fines collected go to the state the rest goes into the Counties General Fund. Concentrate on Brown’s Community Policing concept. That would make things better for all concerned, citizens and Deputies.
March 16, 2008 at 8:18 am
Calvin, as usual, you don’t have a clue about Browns’ projections…There are not enough state troopers to cover the whole county like it needs to be covered and typically they are not going to set up on school zones and work traffic. This is just one example of the benefits of a traffic division but I will list several others. A traffic division in Ellis County would equate to more deputies on the STREETS which would equal 1) better response times to calls for service, 2) quicker response times for officers who may need assistance in times of need such as backup calls, and 3) and more officer presence in our neighborhhoods throughout the county.
These are only 3 viable reasons to have more deputies on the streets but you could keep adding to the list. Just go around to some of the county neighborhoods and ask the people living there if they would like to have a deputy in their neighborhood writing speeding tickets and start a petition…It would fill up quickly!!! This is an example of the county wide input you get from the CITIZENS not just a group of guys coming up with a political strategy and running with it. Sure, Brown has some decent ideas but I would not say his are any better than those proposed by Mr. James Ledbetter.
Early voting starts March 31st thru April 4th!!!
Let’s get a sheriff in there who is responsive and mindful to the current needs of each and every citizen in this county (from all over the county not just in one specific area of the county). James Ledbetter!
Let’s get a sheriff in there who has the actual experience that he has claimed and that you can read it in black and white. He has devoted over 22 years already to the citizens of this county, he knows what changes that need to happen immediately to this department and he will make them happen. James Ledbetter!
He is dedicated, he has integrity, he has been honest and above the board about everything he has said in this election. He is the REAL DEAL…James Ledbetter!
Talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors, talk to your families, talk to your clergy, and tell them that a new Sheriff is coming to town and his name is James Ledbetter- the only REAL candidate for Ellis County Sheriff!!!
Vote James Ledbetter for Ellis County Sheriff!!!
March 16, 2008 at 8:46 am
I personally view a traffic division, as a whole, that focuses mainly on issuing tickets as another taxing arm of government.
I have no problem with S.T.E.P. as it is limited and addresses specific problems.
I support community policing which is proven to be an effective deterrent to crime. An officer, who knows the community and its residence, knows when something isn’t right.
It is kind of like raising your children; you know when something is wrong because of their behavior.
Just a thought…
March 16, 2008 at 9:36 am
I believe that if you review Mr. Ledbetter’s comments on his web site and his responses to the WDL on the subject of a traffic division, he is wanting to include drug traffic interdiction into the patrol division.
Along with accident investigation in conjunction with the Highway Patrol for those periods when there are more accidents than Troopers on duty or when there is not a Trooper on duty and one has be called out at night.
I can find nothing in his literature that refers to revenue from citations for traffic enforcement.
Rather it appears that he is broadening the scope on the war on drugs in Ellis County along with working towards building a better relationship with the Highway Patrol along with providing a more efficient service to the taxpayers.
Just a thought…………………………..
March 16, 2008 at 12:05 pm
You guys are INCREDIBLY blinded by the light!! JAMES WANTS A TRAFFIC DIVISION SO HE CAN DISBAN THE NARCOTICS UNIT!!!!!!!!!!! The narcotics unit is BADLY NEEDED in our county.
This is NOT hearsay, we were AT the meeting where James was telling a fellow WPD SGT that he plans on disbanning the narcotics unit!!!!
This statement made right here is the biggest lie I’ve EVER heard (in my opinion)
“He is dedicated, he has integrity, he has been honest and above the board about everything he has said in this election. He is the REAL DEAL…James Ledbetter!”
Yes, I voted for McKinney the 1st time around, so I’m not a little “brownie” as ya’ll have been calling them, but……..I will be voting for Johnny Brown during the runoff.
March 16, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Just a thought
I can’t buy into the argument that creating more bureaucracy by creating a traffic division is the way to go.
The words Traffic Division has an air of working primarily traffic not working the neighborhoods. Officer working their community based districts are not prohibited from writing tickets and enforcing the law.
Most departments, who are headed by an elected official like the Dallas County Constable traffic division, love to get up on the fence post and crow about revenue generated from such programs which result in a push to write more tickets. I just do not think Ellis County needs to get a reputation for being a speed trap.
My preference is seeing a deputy in my neighborhood that I know and can trust will be there to protect my family. I do not deny him the additional duties of working traffic and writing tickets. I just do not want to see officers gathered up on the highway working traffic.
I believe that we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
March 16, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Ms. M, I hate to disagree with you but you are spreading a blatant lie…You have that person which he supposedly told this lie to come forward because it will never happen. James Ledbetter would never disband that narcotics unit…That unit has needed some changes for a long time but that does not mean it will go away. He would never say such a thing and it is unbelievable that you “brownies” would continue trying to spread that lie. Any LE agency in this county has to have some type of narcotics unit…surely you guys could come up with at least a different lie to try and spread because this one is like way old and already proven untrue…BTW, anyone can come back and say they voted for one person and now claim allegiance to the other side??? Who cares…
March 16, 2008 at 1:35 pm
What nobody has said here is where are these officers going to come from? The county is not going to fund new officers for his newly created ticket jockey crew. Ledbetter intends on cutting services elsewhere to create this “division ” . Does the department need more “division”, I think not! There are not enough deputies to patrol much less be assigned to a “division”. Traffic is important, but we have much larger problems. The last thing we need is a Red Oak PD (speed trap) styled SO. We don’t even have the manpower to provide preventive patrol.
March 16, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Well “real deal” it appears I have poked the sleeping bear. I started not to even respond to your rhetoric but your non-sense is hard to pass up. I don’t understand how you can say “….don’t have a clue about Brown,”, when you don’t know what I know. I know exactly what Brown has planned when he becomes Sheriff and it is change and change for the better. I do agree with one thing you said, we do need more Deputies on the street and in the neighborhoods but if you have a “traffic division” they will be working the major roads trying to write the tickets, not in the neighborhoods. So agree on what is needed just not how we should get it.
Every positive thing that you have said about Ledbetter is also true about Brown. They are both good men and good officers. It is my opinion that Johnny Brown is the man who will make the changes that are needed for this county. I think that the deputies supporting Ledbetter don’t want that change because they might get caught up in the changes that need to be made.
VOTE FOR JOHNNY BROWN TO CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER.
March 16, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I agree 100% Ledbetterhead. Well said.
March 16, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Cueball, he has ALREADY CAME OUT AND SAID IT PUBLICLY!!!! Thats where all the talk came from. James didnt think he’d come out and tell anyone, but he did. James is trying to cover his butt now, because he knows what he said is true. His plans are to disban the narcotics unit, and have the traffic division controlling everything the narcotics division did. So NO its not a blatant LIE. Its the BLATANT TRUTH!!!!!!!!! I’m sorry that you dont like to hear that your candidate has not been as honest as he’s claimed. I’m in no way saying James is a bad person, but hes to the point now after losing previous elections that he’ll say/do ANYTHING to get the position of sheriff.
March 16, 2008 at 2:32 pm
when there is enough deputies in the street where the so can actually patrol our neighborhoods then and only then should we add special “divisions”
March 16, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I don’t really care to argue on here but could you show me where Mr. Ledbetter has said anything publicly about disbanding the narcotics unit??? Ms. M, that talk all came from lies posted on this blog…
I agree that we are short on deputies, he stated that he would like to start a traffic unit which would equal more deputies on the streets, he has never stated that they would be ticket jockeys or going to work major highways only… common sense would tell you that they would be working county roads and neighborhoods, come on now that is simple logic…
Mr. head…this is always a problem with any sheriff department…getting the money from the county…no argument there…Both candidates have “wish lists”, these are things or ideas that they would like to see acomplished, there are no guarantees….no promises
Mr. Michaels, I know you are one of the top brownies so it’s all good…I know where you are coming from…someone might want put Ms. M in check though…she really is lost…
March 16, 2008 at 3:09 pm
cueball, yes I am a Brown supporter, but I’m not sure what you mean by a “top Brownie”. Like I have stated many times before, I am not a member of the Ellis Co. Sheriff’s Department. I am a citizen of Ellis County that cares and wants change. If you think I am anyone other than who I say I am, then you are mistaken. SHERIFF JOHNNY BROWN.
March 16, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Here is something a very smart posted earlier about your candidate Johnny Brown…how do you respond to the black and white of this??? Couldn’t even get past the application process???How can he be the Ellis County Sheriff???
Johnny Brown is considered a Gypsy Cop among career law enforcement professionals. He’s worked for small departments most of his limited career. He works here and there for short periods of time and then moves on to the next job. Kind of like a migrant laborer changing with the seasons as the crops come to an end. His longest employment in law enforcement is with the ECSO. Brown has never held any rank in any of the many law enforcement agencies he’s worked for. That is not one step above the bottom; it is the bottom. Face it he’s been an entry-level officer his entire career. That’s pretty sad for someone with 12 years and 7 months full time law enforcement experience. I voted for Steve McKinney, and now support James Ledbetter 100% as do many of the McKinney supporters. I know the Brownies attempt to discredit James by calling him a Democrat, but facts are facts. He came in second in the Republican Primary, which leads me to believe many Republicans support him. With the McKinney supporters now supporting James I believe he will be the next Sheriff of Ellis County. I have said throughout this election process that if I were not supporting Steve McKinney I would support James Ledbetter without question. Johnny Brown does not possess the qualities such as Integrity, Honor and Experience that are the foundation of a good leader. If Johnny Brown was applying for a Chief of Police position in a municipal police department even as small as the Red Oak Police Department. He would be cut before the initial interview process because of his lack of experience and education. The sad facts with politics are the only qualification required is breathing, and then it becomes a popularity contest. We as citizens must demand more from our next Sheriff and not settle for just breathing, or popularity or even because his wife is a nice person. We need to elect someone with proven leadership experience, Integrity, Honor and Courage such as James Ledbetter. Time will tell if the voters are going to use their vote wisely and cast them for a professional leader such as James Ledbetter or apply the just breathing rule and vote for Brown. VOTE FOR JAMES LEDBETTER
March 16, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Mr. Real Deal,
Your Gypsy Cop comment is laughable.I think the truth will serve you better. Mr. Ledbetter and Mr. Brown hold exactly the same rank at the Sheriff’s office so if your statement is true then Mr.Ledbetter is quite the under achiever. The last time Mr Ledbetter held a command position with the S.O. was under the Corrupt administration of Barney Boyd and was dismissed from duty when John Gage cleaned house after and FBI probe of theft and the cover-up of stolen equipment. Mr. Ledbetter was Barney Boyd’s chief deputy and actually was instrumental in hiding heavy equipment from the Feds.I may be old but my memory is fine.Mr. Ledbetters Chief position of a 2 man department at the time is hardly impressive.
Mr. Ledbetter is not right for the job and is way over his head.
March 16, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Sure got quiet all of the sudden! Ask an old timer they know James career highlights.This all had to come out sooner or later.
March 16, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I would encourage you to look up gypsy cop and it’s definition…..It means changing jobs frequently…how could a person stay at a job for 3 months, leave, go to another job and stay 5 months, leave then go to another job….he’s had like 7 jobs…that is gypsy cop…Look up stories of Mike Meissner who was a prime example of another person who was termed “gypsy cop”….it’s in black and white….
Guess he wasn’t so instrumental in anything if he didn’t get in any trouble by the FBI, that’s straight BS….I guess we can go ahead and start mentioning military records of Brown since you want to look so far back..Funny how he was trying to claim his military records in the beginning until someone brought up the fact he was dishonorably discharged, hmmmm…..easy choice…Ledbetter has hid behind nothing because he has nothing to hide…
I have other things to do than to wait for a brownie to comment on here so I can respond…this is a dead horse….
GYPSY VS. INTEGRITY and HONESTY…hmmmm
makes my choice easy….
March 16, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Beware, according to Real Deal the Current Law Enforcement base of Ellis County are gypsy cops. Anyone who changes a job EARLY in their career is a gypsy cop.Ask an old timer about Ledbetter and Barney Boyd. The reason Ledbetter didn’t go to jail is he helped bury the stolen tractors at the dump in Italy while Barney ran the FBI all over the county.Go down to Italy and ask about Ledbetter and Barney.As far as shifting from McKinney to Ledbetter I heard McKinney slam Ledbetter for being part of the problem in the S.O.
March 16, 2008 at 6:51 pm
What about Ledbetters CPS problems.Ask your man if he is still beating his grandchild.
March 16, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Call CPS and ask if you think you know so much…Johnny should have gotten fired over that little stunt he tried pulling so you may want to get some clearance from him before you start running your head….he tried early digging up some mud and got that door shut….why is he now in a different division???
Beware…sounds like the brownies are going to try to do what they did to McKinney but guys you don’t have a shot at ruining someone as great as James Ledbetter…might want to mend your own fences first before you start trying to tear someone else down…
The facts are that your candidate Brown has lied and deceived Ellis County voters on numerous occasions and you are just trying to deflect the issues…
BTW I believe Ledbetter won Italy so I guess your issue is not an issue….once again BS by the BROWNIES!!!
March 16, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Seriously, A. Shepherd, don’t you have anything better to do with yourself?
Desperation has grasping.
March 16, 2008 at 9:01 pm
REAL DEAL….NOW I KNOW YOUR A PATHETIC LIAR. BROWN SUBMITTED A COPY OF HIS DD 214 WHEN ALL THAT BS STARTED. You just definately proved yourself that you are infact 100% one of Ledbetters supporters that will tell a blatant lie to make your man look good. I find it kind of funny that you really believe that. If Brown would have gotten a DH discharge from the military, he would not be able to obtain a Peace Officers License in the State of Texas.
March 16, 2008 at 9:03 pm
BEFORE ANYONE SAYS THAT I CALLED ALL LEDBETTERS SUPPORTERS LIARS, PLEASE READ WHAT I SAID…………..
That comment was directed towards ONLY Real Deal unless your also one of the ones going around and saying that Johnny got a DH discharge from the military.
March 16, 2008 at 10:06 pm
To whom it may concern,
I am the real A. Shepherd and none of the above postings were made by me.I suspect that none of the actual candidates approve of the non-sense that is going on with this and I cant see that anyone is doing anybody but harm by going on in such a childish manner. I will find out who is using my name through my ISP and put a stop to it.
March 16, 2008 at 10:45 pm
That is very good to know Mr. Shepard, just more of the same from the Brownies…They continue to spread lies, hate, and discontent around this county….the only way to put a stop to it is to vote for the other side, James Ledbetter for Sheriff…
His camp has continued to take the high road when the other camp takes any road available…
March 17, 2008 at 3:32 am
Way off base,
You may find it interesting that I just found out that the person using my email address has been doing so using an unsecure hotspot owned by me in downtown Waxahachie.
That laptop is reportetly owned by a James Ledbetter supporter that works at the Sheriffs office and not a Brown supporter as I first thought.
I said it before and I will say it again you guys are hurting your candidate by pulling this spy counter spy stuff and I am referring to anyone from any side thinking your comments on this blog will win an election.
I will remain neutral as far as comments but everyone needs to let your candidates settle this race and stop hurting your choice with these untruths.
My hotspot will be audited for past logons and will be monitored in the future and I will report this information to the Sheriff and the D.A.’s office if it happens again.
March 17, 2008 at 4:53 am
I don’t see a Ledbetter supporter using someones’ “hotspot” and doing something so heinous as talking bad about his own candidate on this blog but whatever…I’m sure we would all like to know who this person is because our supporters are supposed to be on the high road…If your spot is unsecure I would recommend securing it regardless of who this may be…from a personal perspective…
March 17, 2008 at 8:28 am
Are there any write in candidates? Hell..Treis might be as good an alternative after reading all this tripe. It seems as if all the candidates have serious “warts”.
This resembles the current presidential election….who is the least distasteful to the most voters will win, nothing major will change, and it’s SSDD!
eightball
March 17, 2008 at 8:41 am
What high road do you keep talking about? Are you speaking of being a Christian? I’m not sure how God feels about blogging, but I’m thinking the only high road yall are on is the one you were driving down after you got “high”. If Ledbetter and his two biggest supporters Clint Tims and John Knight are on the high road, hell I’ve already made it to heaven, and I know thats not the case, cause I still woke up this morning in Ellis County.
March 17, 2008 at 12:14 pm
I don’t think you have too much to worry about when it comes to heaven brother….I would think the ceiling might cave in if you were to walk in somewhere “holy”, with friends like you who needs enemies??? Why couldn’t you get hired anywhere else???
March 17, 2008 at 12:19 pm
children, with badges , God Help
March 17, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Anyone wanna’ be a write in candidate?
Joey Dauben for Sheriff….
March 17, 2008 at 4:17 pm
he’d be better than Ledbetter
March 17, 2008 at 9:13 pm
You people need to grow up!
My children don’t even act this bad!
March 17, 2008 at 10:38 pm
oh my god, Yep has offspring
March 19, 2008 at 10:55 am
Vote for Johnny Brown. Ledbetter is a good guy, but NOTHING will change at the ECSO if he is elected. I know both of them and both are good guys. However, Stewart is a liar and Charles Sullins is even worse, we don’t need more of the same.
March 19, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Ledbetterhead,
I feel sorry for you. You must hurt really bad to be so low of an human being. To have so much hate inside your heart is sad. May God be with you!
May God forgive you. I will pray for you!
March 19, 2008 at 3:51 pm
well former cop, Brown has supposedly promised Sullins a top job in his regime….imagine that
March 19, 2008 at 4:52 pm
SUPPOSEDLY is the keyword…….ITS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY 100% FALSE.
IF we want to bring up the subject of who has promised who jobs, why dont you ask Ledbetter who hes promised jobs to?
March 19, 2008 at 5:36 pm
I have no need to ask him, that’s not the issue…ask around in the different cities in Ellis County, there have been promises made….
Brown told the Ellis County employees that if they were employed on 12-31, they would have a job on 1-1 but tell me this, if this is the case how can he be promising jobs to officers from Red Oak, Palmer, Ferris, Midlothian…those jobs won’t be there…who is he lying to??? Those officers in those cities or the ones employed now at the SO???
Ledbetter has made no promises, ask around….
March 19, 2008 at 6:04 pm
oh but Ledbetter HAS promised jobs. Why dont you ask around. Why dont you ask what Ray Stewart is going to be doing come 01/01. Hes not retiring, he’ll still be working for ECSO IF Ledbetter is voted in.
Just because Brown made the statement that ” if you were employed as of 12/31″ doesn’t mean hes promising people jobs. He’s letting people know that just because hes elected hes NOT firing anyone unlike James Ledbetter.
March 19, 2008 at 6:50 pm
I know for a fact of about 40 people that are told they are on Brown’s “hit list” to fire if he’s elected.
Out of Brown’s mouth! Per a Brownie.
I know for a fact that Ledbetter has no such list.
I have asked James and Ann personally.
March 19, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Getyourfacts….take your own advice/screenname and GET YOUR FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
You even said it yourself…….PER A BROWNIE!!! If you only knew about the ppl that are really Ledbetters supporters acting like they are “brownies” and starting crap!!!!
March 19, 2008 at 7:28 pm
The Ledbetter crowd gas been busted in numerous lies. IE: the military thing, now the have no credibility. Why should anybody believe any of their accusations?
Vote Gor Johnny Brown, ignore the lies spread by the loosers.
Johnny Brown, your next Sheriff!
March 19, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Susan M, girl there is no hope for you because you have really fell off the deep end on this one…You make no sense, why would RAY STEWART stay on and not continue to be the Sheriff, he could easily win re-election? That is about the biggest JOKE out of the Brown camp yet…Quite comical actually…You might want to actually speak with someone within the Brown camp that might actually have a clue because you should not be their spokesperson…Guess you sound about like Johnny did at the forum held at the civic center…no clue as usual…you brownies can’t handle FACTS, you like to spin them into rumors and/or call them false allegations…
March 19, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Mr. head, you are another top brownie spokesman on this blog but it would be a little more respectible if you could spell correctly. The lies are in black in white in your WDL, look it up…in reference to service time, fake endorsements, and so on. Do some research…
March 19, 2008 at 9:21 pm
From what I understand it is illegal to offer anyone a job if you have not been elected to an office. ALL of you people might want to get your facts straight before you falsely accuse ANYONE of violating a law. If I’m wrong about the illegal part, let me know. I think that almost everyone on here is from the “L” camp and some are posing as “brownie” just to keep the crap stirred up. Juveniles with a badge. OMG help our county law enforcement.
March 19, 2008 at 9:33 pm
cueballs,
What about your lil lie you were busted in earlier in the week. Speaking of foot in mouth! You guys are jokes! Its ok, won’t be much longer
March 19, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Real original guys, posing??? Come on, who would want to pose as a brownie???
Stealing signs are illegal too but that hasn’t stopped it from happening from your Brown camp now has it, come on guys….surely you can do better than that, you know all of your guys and your styles in blogging…all “true brownies” blogging it up even though your daddy told you to “stop”…we didn’t think you could mind what he supposedly said publicly, right….CM, you are a cop too so quit posing…..
March 19, 2008 at 10:07 pm
“justcurious” you need to change your name to clueless, because you are. I know, that can be the next one you change to. IF I’m a cop, then I need to start drawing another paycheck. Please tell me where I’m a cop so I can get on that payroll. I’m done, come on election day so all this childish crap can stop.
March 19, 2008 at 11:29 pm
here here and AMEN on the childish.
If there is a “hit list” I hope your on it just curious. Before you say, I am not a ecso employee.
March 21, 2008 at 10:03 am
did anybody other than myself notice the Ledbetter (democrat) crew has shut up now that their lies have been outer and everybody now knows they speak with a forked tongue?
March 21, 2008 at 2:10 pm
“Never argue with a pig. It just frustrates you and irritates the pig.”
March 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm
pig? next thing I know somebody here will be saying nanny nanny boohoo and sticking their tongues out.
Fact is the Ledbetters got caught in several lies and it has been shown they fabricated stories about Johnny Brown. All of the “stories” were lies and it was proven that they were lies. Now the Ledbetter camp has no, credibility, none! NADA, ZIP, ZERO!
If that makes someone such as me who appreciates the truith and loves to see liars being outed a pig…… well all I can say is oink… oink. I have been called worse!
JOHNNY BROWN WILL BE THE NEXT SHERIFF OF ELLIS COUNTY FOR MANY REASONS, BUT ONE THAT SITCKS OUT THE MOST IS THE FACT HE DOESN’T PARTICIPATE IN YOU GUYS CHARACTER ASSIGNATIONS.
HAVE A NICE DAY!
March 21, 2008 at 2:54 pm
and yeah, I’m back, couldn’t help it!
March 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm
I don’t even know why I am responding, but I was not calling anyone a pig. My pig comment was a response to James Ledbetterhead’s comment “did anybody other than myself notice the ……… forked tongue?” He said that the Ledbetter supporters had shut up, I was just stating that it was not beneficial to keep arguing when we were not going to solve anything.
March 21, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Sorry, I am sure you see now how your comment was not really direct and could have been taken either way.
Johnny Brown for Sheriff
(the other choice is a joke)
March 21, 2008 at 5:20 pm
You brownies are so very immature, why do you continue to spread the lies and deception? It just doesn’t make sense that we can go days without saying anything and you guys have to start it up again, let it alone…I thought you guys were supposed to support your candidate by shutting your mouths? Guess you folks lack the maturity to actually follow instructions which were given by Brown…
March 21, 2008 at 6:48 pm
what about the lies you guys were busted in? Can you help me understand why you guys thought you could pass such BS off on everybody? I guess you thought the voters and people of the county were stupid.
March 21, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Ledbetter has shown he is not credible.
Johnny Brown, your next sheriff.
March 21, 2008 at 9:32 pm
i think you are mistaken cause it sounds like the stories about brown’s guys…whatever… i’m done arguing w/ you guys….see ya at the polls for the final round…
March 21, 2008 at 9:43 pm
you sure will, the lies from Mr. L and his little followers have cost him the election
March 21, 2008 at 11:08 pm
I agree, those Ledbetter guys did their best. When their best was not good enough they started telling lies and stretching the truth. The voters of Ellis County are not ever going to let that slide and are too smart to vote for someone who has no credibility.
Looks like they beat themselves in the end.
March 22, 2008 at 7:12 am
ok i’m going to take the hook, what lies have the ledbetter camp told, i think they have clearly pointed out the ones that the BROWN camp has told so what are the ones we told???
we are the only ones with credibility clearly…ledbetter has not lied about his years of service or stole anyones signs or accepted any fake endorsements….explain that one away…
you talk in past tense but this election is far from over like your paper, WDL, would like it to be…
March 22, 2008 at 10:49 am
To answer your question Mr. Ledbetterhead, the Ledbetter camp has not “shut up” due to being exposed of anything. The reason is that most of the Ledbetter camp has graduated from the childish bickering through this forum and we realize to engage in such behavior is not needed. If you look at the postings over the past months, from the civilian comments, the S.O. has been given a black eye over all of this, and some trust has definately been lost. The Ledbetter camp realizes that the citizens of Ellis County do in fact come first, and the image the S.O. once had prior to all of this needs to be restored. Although entertaining, if political comments are to be made, they will be verified and posted through an actual media outlet, and not the ECO or WDL.
March 22, 2008 at 12:28 pm
RE: CC
You said:
“The Ledbetter camp realizes that the citizens of Ellis County do in fact come first, and the image the S.O. once had prior to all of this needs to be restored. ”
I say:
Does that mean you guys are gong to stop your fabrication of lies and stop spreading things that are not true? I would think it would.
You guys said terrible things about Mr. Brown, such as he was fired from departments, not… he exposed corruption within the ranks and the people exposed were indicted, and convicted. Then he left the department in question. Doing the right thing, is what he is known for. You guys tried to put a spin on that and make it negative.
You guys say has a less than honorable discharge from the military, easy to disprove that, and he did. He provided documentation of that every one of you guys snipe attacks was a big lie. You are upset because Mr. Brown is a just man and does the right thing, it has got him somewhere. The fact is, you know when a new sheriff comes in children like you will be looking for jobs elsewhere because Brown will bring much needed integrity into the Sheriff’s Department and will not tolerate liars and dishonest people.
If you are so worried about the department’s image you wouldn’t be telling big ol’ whopper lies. The people know if someone will tell whoppers here they will tell them on the witness stand. So do the attorneys and judges. You morons are hurting the whole department with your whoppers. Credibility and trust are key to a law enforcement officer. The Ledbetter camp has ruined theirs by resorting to lies. When you have lost your credibility you have lost it all. The people will show that very soon. Just remember you beat yourselves when this is all over and the smoke clears.
March 22, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I still don’t understand what Ledbetter has lied about? Seems like JB’s side and JL’s side have both talked plenty smack during this campaign, but what has Ledbetter’s camp lied about, exactly??
March 22, 2008 at 6:43 pm
one of the Manu stories is Browns military record
March 22, 2008 at 10:58 pm
haha mitch, another made up name for one of the same ol same ol……same ol story from the Brown crew….wah wah wah…bunch of crybabies..get over it…you guys are ate up with it.
The way this blog goes and it’s been shown plenty of times, anyone can act or portray to be anybody they want to be on this blog…i’m not buying into any of it for one minute that one of our people has acted out of line…we don’t have to act this way to reach our goals.
The true Ledbetter supporters have not said ONE WORD on here that has not been the absolute truth…we stand behind our candidate James Ledbetter and just like him, we don’t have to hide behind any smoke, no mirrors, no lies, no deceit, you take your made up stories and spread them on here all you want to, the people who know are fully aware that Ledbetter or his supporters have not said a thing out of order…Everything such as Brown’s service time is in black and white..He claimed 20 plus years in the papers and that has been clearly shown to be a lie…Just that alone is enough to discredit him because he has claimed it everywhere….from his own mouth…enough said!!!
March 23, 2008 at 12:25 am
I’d disagree he says he had been a peace officer for 20 years. He took a break at one time but had been certified ad a peace officer that long. You guys spread so much crap you stink.
March 23, 2008 at 12:28 am
if you were a doctor, and you were licensed for 20 years but you took 7 off and did not practice, would that make you a doctor for 13 or 20 years idiot?
March 23, 2008 at 9:26 am
I am not a made up name. I go to church with Johnny Brown and know the man is a true person. He loves his god and loves people. That is the qualities I am looking for in my next sheriff.
March 23, 2008 at 10:50 am
Wrong again Mr. Ledbetterhead. He had a 10 year break in service where no one was carrying his license. By TCLEOSE rules, if no one carries your license within two years it expires and you have to re-new when you get another job. So would it be fair to say that if his license expired in that two years due to no one carrying his commission, there was eight years that he was not a peace officer at all, and performed no peace officer duties in that whole ten years (unless he performed them illegally)?
March 23, 2008 at 2:18 pm
you are splitting hairs wrong again. (glad your screen name is correct)
Thanks for admitting you guys were full of shit
March 23, 2008 at 2:35 pm
You know Mr. Head, I would like to tell you that you are one classless individual…
You will reap what you sow!!!
March 23, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Mr. Head, please read my comment again. I was asking you a legitimate question and trying to simply conversate, and my response is that I am “full of sh*t”. Guess that’s typical of the your camp to resort to the childish name calling. Would anyone else be willing to answer my question? Is my previous comment correct?
March 24, 2008 at 3:14 am
johnny license was inactive but never revoked. He has always said he has had his license X number of years and said has X years of experience. You liars are taking half of the story and making up the rest. L is for Ledbetter, also for liar
March 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I never said it was revoked. Be that as it may, all of the advertisements I have seen said 20+ yrs (mailers, ads, website). I have never seen one that says he has x years of experience and held a license x number of years. Please tell me where I can find one. Oh yeah thanks for the name calling again. It wouldn’t be a true Brown camp response without it. B is for Brown, also for bullsh*t.
March 25, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Pa Pa For President!! Woooo Hooooo!!
March 25, 2008 at 5:33 pm
To the Editor,
As the runoff election for sheriff draws near, I’ve noticed that the rhetoric has ramped up and the political phenomenon of half-truths is becoming more prevalent. This has become most notable where candidate Johnny Brown’s military record was questioned by candidate James Ledbetter’s supporters and subsequently Mr. Brown was forced to produce his honorable discharge to prove his military service to his country. Now this might seem as little to some, but to one who has served, the thought of being asked to prove one’s service is insulting at best.
In addition, Mr. Ledbetter chose to make the difference in experience his platform, and we have been asked to take the information as gospel obtained from TCLEOSE and contained in an ad run by a J.W. Dant and later distributed by Mr. Ledbetter’s supporters in handout form. Anyone familiar with TCLEOSE knows that there is a lot more contained in a report than that disclosed by Mr. Dant and later used by Mr. Ledbetter’s supporters. And since experience is so important to Mr. Ledbetter, let me offer additional information contained in the TCLEOSE report.
Johnny Brown’s total of training and course study 1,705 hours
James Ledbetter’s total of training and course study 1,281 hours
This is a net difference of 424 hours or a 25 percent difference in favor of Johnny Brown and has been achieved by Johnny in less than half the time it took his opponent. I have to believe this information was omitted by Mr. Ledbetter’s supporters with purpose. The disclosure of this information cannot bode well for James – especially in view of his being in charge of training for the sheriff’s office and therefore it simply was not included in information provided to the public by his political supporters and Mr. J.W. Dant.
James Ledbetter has run for Ellis County sheriff two times in the past and failed, and I ask you what has changed that qualifies him to administer and take on a responsibility that is 10 times larger and much more technical than the last time he ran? I say nothing, and with the challenges facing Ellis County in the future and the importance of the office of sheriff, it should not be treated as an entitlement earned through years served without consideration of how one’s time was spent.
Remember, it is not the number of years on this earth that shape the man but the content of those years,
Larry Burns,
Waxahachie
March 25, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Since you want to post this, I will post response, appropriate huh?
” Who is Larry Burns? What makes him such an expert on the needs in Ellis County Law Enforcement?
All that I know is that I continue to see him coming onto the WDL and slamming our Sheriff candidates, where does he get his information from? Johnny Brown.
Who is Larry Burns? Isn’t he a used car salesman? Isn’t he the same guy who sold a few bad hamburgers for 6 months or so here in town? How is he now an expert in what Ellis County needs and who made him Ellis Countys’ premier voice on Law Enforcement?
I’m not sure but I know one thing and that is that I am tired of seeing him spew venom in his commentaries about these good men. Who cares what Larry Burns thinks? He is not a Law Enforcement guru, he has attached himself to the coat tails of Johnny Brown and his supporters and truly knows nothing about either Steve McKinney or James Ledbetter but he can offer commentary on what Ellis County needs in our sheriff’s office?
Does Larry Burns have any Law Enforcement experience? Is he the only person in the Brown camp who can speak? Maybe Larry Burns should be running for office…
I would think that you might want to spend more time promoting your business and selling a car or two than trying to tell us voters in Ellis County what we need… “
March 25, 2008 at 8:59 pm
yawn…who cares
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